AFL Teams – Round 4, 2012 – Nat the Knife? No Goodes!


AFL Teams for Round 4, 2012

This article each week tends to touch on Fantasy Footy relevant players, normally in passing but this week the big players to talk about are fantasy relevant, BIG TIME! Nat Fyfe popped out his shoulder in Freos big win against the Lions and was subbed out with a dislocated shoulder before half time and scoring 22pts in DreamTeam. The media based doctors were suggesting that would be the last we would see of him. Even though Nat played through much of last year with a loose shoulder, that this was a more serious issue and that this time it would end his season and see him go for a shoulder reconstruction. But amazingly Fyfe has trained and baring a specialist thoughts on the matter, it seems that Fyfe is set to play this week and possilbly the rest of the season. So DreamTeam/SuperCoach coaches have the tough choice of keep him/trade him! Personally myself, I will be trading him as I see him being rested against the minnows to protect his shoulder. In other Freo news it looks like Ross Lyons new favorite, Lache Neale has made the trip to Melbourne and could possibly replace Josh Mellington who injured his Hammy although they have serial pest, Hayden Ballantyne to return from suspension also.

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The other fantasy relevant fantasy news came at the tribunal with Adam Goodes being suspended for a week and will miss their game this week. They have North coming off a big win against the Cats so this could be a huge loss for the Swans. Mike Pyke, Jarred Moore and Tommy Walsh are reported to have good games for the Swans reservers and will come into consideration to replace Goodes. Over at the Bulldogs, they are going to have to go into their battle of the unbeaten with Melbourne without All-Australian backman, Brian Lake after he was suspended for a week. Not a lot in the VFL for them to bring in from a defensive front so they may bring in an offensive player like Justin Sherman or even Matthew Panos and switch one of there other talls back.

In other selection news:

  • Darren Glass looks set to return from injury/rest to play the Hawks although Priddis and Rossa could miss another week. Brad Daizell will need to be replaced due to a knee injury so Butler, Swift and Brennon could get a look in.
  • Matthew Lobbe might play on the weekend after being out with injury a lot of the preseason but is most likely to return via the SANFL. John Butcher will be tested and could return. Ex-Hawk premiership player, Brent Renouf, returned via SANFL last week but is likely to have another at that level before pushing for selection.
  • Luke Hodge faces a fitness test to see if he returns. He has missed almost a month of footy and wouldn’t be surprised if he makes his way back via the Box Hill Hawks. Broc McCauley should return to help the Hawks take on Cox and Nic Nat. Bruest will miss after his big knock. Will be interesting to see if Birchall plays after being subbed off with a thigh/knee cork on the weekend. Issac Smith could return as well if he is over his back related hammy. Poppy likely to return via VFL.
  • With Luke Ball and Ben Reid likely to be out for extended periods (Ball the rest of the season), Collingwood are looking thin especially down back. Alan Didak maybe called on earlier then expect. Buckley may turn to Buckley (of the Simon kind) and Ben Johnson how has had three weeks in the VFL.
  • Looks like a swap of Leuenberger, who will miss at least 8 weeks after being put on the long term injury list, for Ben “The Peoples Beard” Hudson for the Lions.
Thats enough for now. Who do you think will be back for your side. Remember to keep checking the Updates over the course of the weekend to get the latest selection information.


  • No updates yet, but don’t forget to checkout the Coaches Box AFL DreamTeam and SuperCoach podcast for the week where my co-host, M0nty of Fanfooty, and myself discussed the issues of the week. Who to buy, who to keep and who to get rid of, with especial focus on how to handle the Fyfe problem!
  • Thurs 10:50am: Lions who had previously put Leuenberger on the long term injury list, have upgraded Rookie Jack Crisp to the senior list to Senior list to replace him. Crisp is described as “Jack Crisp is a genuine utility who can play roles up forward, down back and in the middle.”
  • Thurs 10:55am: Essendon who previously had put Brent Prismall on the LTI have take the opportunity upgrade Cory Dell’Olio. He is Described as “He is strong, quick and has good goal-sense.”
  • Thurs 11:10am: Team news is coming thick and fast with the news from the Hawks that WA recruit, Bradley Hill, will make his debut this week verus the West Coast Eagles! We know that Breust will miss with concussion but does this mean no Hodge or no Birchall or something else? Note to the media, its Bradley not Brad!
  • Thurs 12:15pm: Geelong just announced that they have upgraded Jesse Stringer from the rookie list in place of Nathan Vardy who has just been put on the long term injury list. Expect him to be named tonight!
  • Thurs 2:20pm: Word is that Nat “I need to go Under the Knife” Fyfe will probably play this week against the Saints but will need to go under the Sergeons knife “in the future”. Hard to tell if that is the near or long term future.
  • Thurs 4pm: More bad news for Collingwood with Dale Thomas and Heath Shaw ruled out for the next two weeks! Shaw going to hurt DreamTeams!
  • Thurs 4:51pm: Hawks have just announced that they have placed Max Bailey on the Long Term Injury list. No mention of an upgrade.
  • Thurs 5pmMark Austin been upgraded for the Dogs with Tom William moving to the Long Term Injury list.
  • Thurs 5:35pm: Being reported that Sam Shaw will replace Andy Otten for the Crows. Not sure the validity of it.
  • Thurs 5:47pm: Brisbane Lions twitter account claiming “Massive news” at selection this week! Could it just be Jack Crisp or is there bigger news?
  • Thurs 6:05pm: AFL Media Manager, Patrick Keane just announced that there will be 29 changes among the Friday/Saturday games and already 6 players out of the Sunday games!
  • Thurs 6:15pm: Saints team has leaked in a team Video. Been hidden now. See it here.
  • Thurs 6:19pm: Reports that Kelly out for the Cats and Armfield out for the Blues!
  • Thurs 6:35pm: Full teams in!
  • Fri 11:35pm: First bit of team news for the day is from the Tigers. Shane Edwards has been removed from the 25 man squad and has been replaced by Jeromey Webberley
  • Fri 3:35pm: Rumor started on SEN apparently via Twitter is that Grant Brichall didn’t board the plane to Perth. Yet to be confirmed although it wouldn’t surprise me as it was first put forward in this very post that he would be in great doubt!
  • Fri 4:40pm: More bad news for DreamTeamers/SuperCoaches. Shane Mumford is out of the Sydney squad with a back complaint and Jarred Moore is into the squad to replace him. With Redden already out, could make things very interesting if Orren Stephenson for some reason doesn’t play for the Cats!
  • Fri 5pm: FMDT! Stephenson named an emergency for the Cats!
  • Fri 5:15pm: Sunday teams are in. Waiting on news from Hawks training in Perth on Birchall. Been carnage in DreamTeam  and SuperCoach.
  • Fri 6:45pm: Team sheets are in for the Friday night game and Nat Fyfe is a late out! Jack Anthony replaces him in the line up. Jamie Cripps the sub for the Saints and first gamer, Lachie Neale, is the sub for the Dockers
  • Fri 6:55pm: Hawks assistant, Luke Beveridge, has confirmed Grant Birchall hasn’t traveled with the team. No mention of who will come in for him or which of the emergencies have traveled to Perth.
  • Sat 12:35pm: Bombers have a late change. Courtenay Dempsey is out and Ricky Dyson in to replace him. Brock McLean is the sub for the Blues and Cory Dell’Olio, playing his first game, will be the Sub for the Bombers
  • Sat 6:40pm: As reported earlier, Grant Birchall is out of the Hawks line-up and now we know that Cameron Bruce is his replacement. The subs are Patrick McGinnity for the Eagles and first gamer, Bradley Hill for the Hawks
  • Sun 12:30pm: Sub for Cats is Jesse Stringer and for the Tigers its Matt White


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St Kilda

B: Jarryn Geary, Sam Gilbert, Jason Blake
HB: Tom Simpkin, Sam Fisher, Sean Dempster
C: Nick Dal Santo, Lenny Hayes, Brendon Goddard
HF: Jack Steven, Nick Riewoldt, Leigh Montagna
F: Stephen Milne, Rhys Stanley, Terry Milera
Foll: Ben McEvoy, David Armitage, Clinton Jones
I/C: Justin Koschitzke, Dean Polo, Jack Newnes
Sub: Jamie Cripps
Emg: Farren Ray, Brett Peake, Beau Wilkes


B: Garrick Ibbotson, Zac Dawson, Adam McPhee
HB: Michael Johnson, Luke McPharlin, Tendai Mzungu
C: Paul Duffield, Ryan Crowley, Stephen Hill
HF: Matthew de Boer, Christopher Mayne, Clancee Pearce
F: Hayden Ballantyne, Matthew Pavlich, Zachary Clarke
Foll: Aaron Sandilands, , Nick Suban, Michael Barlow
I/C: David Mundy, Greg Broughton,  Jack Anthony
Sub: Lachie Neale
Emg: Kepler Bradley, Dylan Roberton, Jack Anthony
In: Hayden Ballantyne, Lachie Neale,  Jack Anthony
Out: Kepler Bradley, Josh Mellington (Hamstring), Nathan Fyfe
New: Lachie Neale (Glenelg)


B: Jeremy Laidler, Michael Jamison, Christopher Yarran
HB: Nick Duigan, Lachlan Henderson, Zach Tuohy
C: Marc Murphy, Chris Judd, Kade Simpson
HF: Jeffrey Garlett, Jarrad Waite, Kane Lucas
F: Shaun Hampson, Mitch Robinson, Eddie Betts
Foll: Matthew Kreuzer, Bryce Gibbs, Andrew Carrazzo
I/C: Paul Bower, Heath Scotland, Edward Curnow
Sub: Brock McLean
Emg: Jordan Russell, Bret Thornton, Andrew Collins
In: Brock McLean
Out: Dennis Armfield (Knee)


B: Dustin Fletcher, Tayte Pears,  David Zaharakis
HB: Kyle Hardingham, Cale Hooker, Dyson Heppell
C: Michael Hibberd, Jobe Watson, Jake Melksham
HF: Stewart Crameri, Tom Bellchambers, Sam Lonergan
F: Leroy Jetta, Michael Hurley, Alwyn Davey
Foll: Patrick Ryder, Heath Hocking, Brent Stanton
I/C: Angus Monfries, Ricky Dyson, Ben Howlett
Sub: Cory Dell’Olio
Emg: Ricky Dyson, Henry Slattery, Luke Davis
In: Sam Lonergan, Cale Hooker, Cory Dell’Olio, Ricky Dyson
Out: Ricky Dyson, Kyle Reimers, Jake Carlisle (Soreness), Courtenay Dempsey
New: Cory Dell’Olio (South Fremantle/South Coogee Junior)


B: Heritier O’Brien, Lachlan Keeffe, Ben Johnson
HB: Simon Buckley, Nick Maxwell, Tyson Goldsack
C: Dane Swan, Tom Young, Sharrod Wellingham
HF: Jackson Paine, Chris Dawes, Ben Sinclair
F: Dayne Beams, Travis Cloke, Alex Fasolo
Foll: Darren Jolly, Scott Pendlebury, Steele Sidebottom
I/C: Alan Toovey, Martin Clarke, Jarryd Blair
Sub: Paul Seedsman
Emg: Nathan Brown, Cameron Wood, Kirk Ugle
In: Ben Johnson, Simon Buckley, Tom Young, Paul Seedsman, Jackson Paine
Out: Heath Shaw (Hamstring), Dale Thomas (Hamstring), Ben Reid (Quad), Cameron Wood, Luke Ball (Knee)

Port Adelaide

B: Jacob Surjan, Alipate Carlile, Jackson Trengove
HB: Ben Jacobs, Troy Chaplin, Danyle Pearce
C: Hamish Hartlett, Domenic Cassisi, Kane Cornes
HF: Travis Boak, Justin Westhoff, Robert Gray
F: John Butcher, Jay Schulz, Darren Pfeiffer
Foll: Brent Renouf, Bradley Ebert, John McCarthy
I/C: Paul Stewart, Matthew Broadbent, Daniel Stewart
Sub: Chad Wingard
Emg: Matt Thomas, Simon Phillips, Aaron Young
In: John Butcher, Brent Renouf, Darren Pfeiffer
Out: Matt Thomas, Jarrad Redden (Rested), Cameron O’Shea
New: Brent Renouf (Hawthorn), Darren Pfeiffer (Norwood)


B: Michael Doughty, Ben Rutten, Sam Shaw
HB: Brent Reilly, Daniel Talia, Brodie Smith
C: Nathan van Berlo, Patrick Dangerfield, Matthew Jaensch
HF: Bernie Vince, Taylor Walker, Jared Petrenko
F: Jason Porplyzia, Kurt Tippett, Shaun McKernan
Foll: Sam Jacobs, Scott Thompson, Rory Sloane
I/C: David Mackay, Brodie Martin, Matthew Wright
Sub: Ricky Henderson
In: Shaun McKernan, Ricky Henderson, Sam Shaw, Matthew Wright, Matthew Jaensch
Out: Graham Johncock (Thigh), Andy Otten, Ian Callinan, Tom Lynch, Sam Kerridge
New: Sam Shaw (Oakleigh Chargers (Vic))

GWS Giants

B: Jack Hombsch, Tim Mohr, Phil Davis
HB: Adam Kennedy, Chad Cornes, Luke Power
C: Tom Scully, Tomas Bugg, Rhys Palmer
HF: Adam Treloar, Curtly Hampton, James McDonald
F: Shaun Edwards, Jonathan Giles, Devon Smith
Foll: Dean Brogan, Callan Ward, Dylan Shiel
I/C: Israel Folau, Anthony Miles, Adam Tomlinson
Sub: Jacob Townsend
In: Shaun Edwards, Anthony Miles, James McDonald
Out: Jeremy Cameron (Soreness), Stephen Coniglio, Toby Greene (Soreness)
New: Shaun Edwards (Melbourne Grammar/St. Mary’s), Anthony Miles (Murray Bushrangers/Nth. Albury)

Brisbane Lions

B: Josh Drummond, Matt Maguire, Ashley McGrath
HB: Pearce Hanley, Joel Patfull, Mitchell Golby
C: Jed Adcock, Andrew Raines, Daniel Rich
HF: Sam Sheldon, Jonathan Brown, Todd Banfield
F: Aaron Cornelius, Daniel Merrett, Ryan Lester
Foll: Ben Hudson, Simon Black, Jack Redden
I/C: Tom Rockliff, Jared Polec, Jack Crisp
Sub: Ryan Harwood
In: Simon Black, Aaron Cornelius, Ben Hudson, Jack Crisp
Out: Matthew Leuenberger (Achilles), Jesse O’Brien, Claye Beams, Billy Longer
New: Jack Crisp (Murray Bushrangers (VIC))

Gold Coast Suns

B: Jared Brennan, Nathan Bock, Seb Tape
HB: Jarrod Harbrow, Matthew Warnock, Matt Shaw
C: Dion Prestia, Gary Ablett, David Swallow
HF: Campbell Brown, Tom Lynch, Harley Bennell
F: Josh Fraser, Sam Day, Aaron Hall
Foll: Zac Smith, Josh Caddy, Michael Rischitelli
I/C: Karmichael Hunt, Trent McKenzie, Brandon Matera
Sub: Luke Russell
In: Campbell Brown
Out: Maverick Weller

West Coast Eagles

B: Adam Selwood, Darren Glass, Eric Mackenzie
HB: Shannon Hurn, Will Schofield, Beau Waters
C: Matthew Rosa, Luke Shuey, Andrew Gaff
HF: Jack Darling, Quinten Lynch, Josh Hill
F: Dean Cox, Josh Kennedy, Ashton Hams
Foll: Nic Naitanui, Scott Selwood, Daniel Kerr
I/C: Matthew Priddis, Chris Masten, Ashley Smith
Sub: Patrick McGinnity
In: Darren Glass, Matthew Priddis, Matthew Rosa
Out: Mitch Brown, Bradd Dalziell (Knee), Koby Stevens


B: Brent Guerra, Josh Gibson, Benjamin Stratton
HB: Clinton Young, Ryan Schoenmakers, Matt Suckling
C: Brendan Whitecross, Sam Mitchell, Shane Savage
HF: Michael Osborne, Lance Franklin, Shaun Burgoyne
F: Cyril Rioli, Jarryd Roughead, Jack Gunston
Foll: David Hale, Brad Sewell, Jordan Lewis
I/C: Liam Shiels, Kyle Cheney, Cameron Bruce
Sub: Bradley Hill
In: Cameron Bruce, Bradley Hill
Out: Grant Birchall, Luke Breust (Concussion)
New: Bradley Hill (West Perth)

Geelong Cats

B: Cameron Guthrie, Tom Lonergan, Corey Enright
HB: Andrew Mackie, Harry Taylor, Tom Gillies
C: Taylor Hunt, Joel Corey, Steven Motlop
HF: Paul Chapman, Tom Hawkins, Allen Christensen
F: Mathew Stokes, James Podsiadly, Steve Johnson
Foll: Trent West, Jimmy Bartel, Joel Selwood
I/C: Josh Hunt, Mitch Duncan, George Horlin-Smith
Sub: Jesse Stringer
Emg: Shannon Byrnes, Jordan Schroder, Orren Stephenson
In: Josh Hunt, Mathew Stokes, Jesse Stringer
Out: James Kelly (Groin), Orren Stephenson, Shannon Byrnes
New: Jesse Stringer (Port Magpies)


B: Steven Morris, Alex Rance, Chris Newman
HB: Bachar Houli, Dylan Grimes, Jake Batchelor
C: Brett Deledio, Dustin Martin, Daniel Jackson
HF: Reece Conca, Tyrone Vickery, Nathan Foley
F: Brad Miller, Jack Riewoldt, Robin Nahas
Foll: Ivan Maric, Trent Cotchin, Shane Tuck
I/C: Shaun Grigg, Brandon Ellis, Addam Maric
Sub: Matthew White
Emg: Angus Graham, Luke McGuane, Jeromey Webberley
In: Matthew White
Out: Shane Edwards (Calf)

Sydney Swans

Sydney Swans
B: Martin Mattner, Heath Grundy, Alex Johnson
HB: Andrejs Everitt, Ted Richards, Rhyce Shaw
C: Kieren Jack, Jude Bolton, Lewis Jetta
HF: Jarrad McVeigh, Sam Reid, Gary Rohan
F: Craig Bird, Ryan O’Keefe, Ben McGlynn
Foll: Mark Seaby, Josh P. Kennedy, Daniel Hannebery
I/C: Nick Malceski, Jesse White, Luke Parker, Tony Armstrong
Emg: Jarred Moore, Tommy Walsh, Harry Cunningham
In: Mark Seaby, Tony Armstrong
Out: Adam Goodes (Suspension), Shane Mumford (Back)
New: Tony Armstrong (Adelaide)

North Melbourne

North Melbourne
B: Scott McMahon, Scott Thompson, Liam Anthony
HB: Daniel Wells, Michael Firrito, Jamie Macmillan
C: Samuel Wright, Andrew Swallow, Shaun Atley
HF: Ryan Bastinac, Aaron Edwards, Kieran Harper
F: Matt Campbell, Drew Petrie, Lindsay Thomas
Foll: Todd Goldstein, Jack Ziebell, Leigh Adams
I/C: Brent Harvey, Hamish McIntosh, Luke Delaney, Ben Cunnington
Emg: Cruize Garlett, Robbie Tarrant, Levi Greenwood


B: James Frawley, Jared Rivers, Clint Bartram
HB: Rohan Bail, Colin Garland, Luke Tapscott
C: Matthew Bate, Brent Moloney, Nathan Jones
HF: Jordie McKenzie, Jack Watts, Jeremy Howe
F: Tom McDonald, Mitchell Clark, Aaron Davey
Foll: Mark Jamar, James Magner, Jack Trengove
I/C: Lynden Dunn, Cale Morton, Joel Macdonald, James Sellar
Emg: Ricky Petterd, Jack Fitzpatrick, Thomas Couch
In: Brent Moloney, Joel Macdonald
Out: Jack Grimes (Suspension), Stefan Martin

Western Bulldogs

B: Robert Murphy, Lukas Markovic, Dylan Addison
HB: Patrick Veszpremi, Ryan Hargrave, Easton Wood
C: Daniel Cross, Matthew Boyd, Luke Dahlhaus
HF: Daniel Giansiracusa, Liam Jones, Adam Cooney
F: Nathan Djerrkura, Ayce Cordy, Justin Sherman
Foll: William Minson, Ryan Griffen, Liam Picken
I/C: Shaun Higgins, Jarrad Grant, Jordan Roughead, Mitchell Wallis
Emg: Thomas Liberatore, Tory Dickson, Mark Austin
In: Patrick Veszpremi, Justin Sherman, Mitchell Wallis
Out: Brian Lake (Suspension), Thomas Liberatore, Clay Smith (Soreness)

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